Not to start ANYTHING political, but to start something political, Huntsman is probably my favorite GOP candidate. Since I’m left-leaning, that’s probably why he won’t be nominated.
I hear this from A LOT of liberals and I don’t really understand it. I get that Huntsman comes off as personable and charming and moderate in temperament, and that is great, but his record is not liberal, or even all that moderate unless all you care about is global warming.
Huntsman is pro-flat(ish) tax, pro guns, super pro-life. All in all fairly conservative. If you are left leaning you would probably be happier, policy wise, under Romney.
Ok, but that’s not the point. The Huntsman campaign, IE one of his daughters, tried to paint the Paul campaign as mocking his adopted daughter. I thought Mormons weren’t supposed to lie
Look, I love Huntsman, in a fair world my party would be nominating him (and those daughters ain’t bad either. But as a Republican, I have already reluctantly resigned myself to the idea of Mitt Romney, Presidential nominee.
Notice I didn’t say President Romney. Mitt will win the nomination easily and he will flop through the general election like a fish.
Generally I hated my choices for Republican nominee this year: a crazy lady we were about to get rid of until she hitched her ride to the Tea Party, a philandering pizza king, a man so bland his shit turned gray, and a crazy old man who has a cult like status among other crazy people. God I miss Reagan. Can we just clone the dude? Well, actually we can’t do that because we made that sort of thing illegal…maybe a robot? I would totally elect a Cyborg Ronald Reagan to the presidency.
God, why Romney? Why did we pick the most boring mother fucker in the party? If we aren’t going to win, let’s have fun with it. Lets just nominate Ron Jeremy and let him have sex on stage during the debates. Let’s nominate Gary Busey and give him a microphone for thirty minutes. ANYTHING but that vanilla flavored Mormon fuck.
“Ok guys, we’re up against a super cool, super smooth, amazing speaking walking-fundraiser but he’s vulnerable! We need to nominate someone to really shake up the party! Get that youth vote like Obama did! Who ya got??”
“Uh…..we can nominate faceless old white career millionaire/politician version 10.4.”
Worse. Mitt Romney is, in reality, what people thought John Kerry was.
Both of them are elitist stick-up-their-ass guys from Massachusetts who are incapable of human feeling or communicating like an ordinary person.
They’re both flip-floppers, but to wildly varying degrees. Kerry was killed because he said “I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it,” which, in context, made sense. There were two versions of the war funding bill up for a vote in the Senate — he voted for the one that raised taxes on the rich to finance the war, then he voted against the one that simply threw the cost of the war on the deficit. His phrasing was garbled as hell, but the underlying issue wasn’t a flip-flop.
Romney, however, has flip-flopped on virtually every issue under the sun. The website Multiple Choice Mitt has a decent rundown, and it’s a pretty amazing list.
Add to that the fact that, as Huckabee said, Romney reminds people of the guy who fired them, and you’re looking at an epic trainwreck.
The main thing Kerry and Romney have in common is they both appear to the public as out of touch elitists that will say whatever they can to be President.
The United States of America, where Presidents are elected based on their wallet, looks and whether or not they’re worse then the other guy running. America, fuck yeah!
This gentlemen is a little window into life as an under 30 Republican, where the party’s ideals make a whole lot of sense to you, you defend them vigorously against the horde of assholes who think you’re a stormtrooper in the Waffen SS, you suffer through “I’m sorry, I can’t date you because you’re a Republican.” from every loose college girl on campus, and then smile uncomfortably when it feels like every screenwriter gets it into their head that you’re the bad guy from an 80s comedy (Chad/Brian/Charles/William from across the lake/the rival golf course/the much better fraternity/the rival dojo).
And what is your reward for this loyalty, this perseverance inspite of tall odds? A party that doesn’t get you, doesn’t really like you, and kind of pisses on you when it comes time for a nominee.
And what is your reward for this loyalty, this perseverance inspite of tall odds? A party that doesn’t get you, doesn’t really like you, and kind of pisses on you when it comes time for a nominee.
Oh I know their pain. I hadn’t seen that video yet, that is just heart breaking. I also recommend the documentary on the Log Cabin guys and their struggle with the Bush Nomination because it was a stunning example of perfectly reasonable group of Republicans who stick to their beliefs…but they have to swallow a lot of shit from the very same people they support.
I think sane Republicans like thecursor should join angry and disillusioned Democrats like myself, compromise and agree on our issues, and start a third party for the 60% of America that isn’t extreme in any way.
At this point if there was a third party that believed in a reasonable small government, the right to keep at reasonable portion of what you earn, and doesn’t call me a psycho for owning a gun, I’d probably join.
Notice I said reasonable, not Libertarian crazy small government where you have a closet marked “Federal Government” and the rest of the country is an anarchist oligarchy.
TV related political rant: yesterday when I went in the locker room at the Y three old guys are drinking coffee watching Fox cover “the EPA infringing on the rights of homeowners! 5th amendment! Derp! Derp!” segment and as I walked out it was “look at this picture of a high school girl that was too racy for her high school yearbook. First Amendment! Derp! Derp!” this is where the rest of the republican party comes to learn.
Here’s my crackpot theory on the election: Romney is the best choice for America. Why? Because everyone on the right hates Obama. Everyone on the left hates the Tea Party. But nobody on either side gives a crap about Romney. We’re all fairly indifferent. He provokes no passion on either side. We could all finally unite in apathetic solidarity. Political bickering would cease because no one would give a shit.
You’re probably not that far off. Since the Republican party isn’t this monolith voting block everybody likes to believe, you end up with every different piece of the party wanting somebody different because everybody has a different idea of what constitutes Conservative thought.
The Libertarians want Paul, the Religious Right wants Santorum or Perry, the Tea Party wanted Cain or Bachmann, and the Moderates like me want Huntsman. The only guy everyone can can agree isn’t a total piece of shit or a psycho is Mitt Romney. He’s like those curtains your wife made you buy, they don’t suck but they ain’t great.
There is always the possibility of a brokered convention leading to a candidate being “drafted”. Somebody like Mitch Daniels or Bob McDonald. If Romney gets the nomination I think Obama is going to win fairly easily since I could see Johnson pulling 5-15% away.
I don’t think we’re going to see a brokered convention.
If Democrats fell in line behind our shit sandwich, the much more party-centric Republicans are going to fall in line behind theirs. Romney will take NH tonight, and he’s got the SC state leadership in his pocket too. This’ll be effectively wrapped up by FL, though Gingrich and Paul will still nip at his heels for a little longer.
But if it *does* go to a brokered convention, I have a hard time believing they give the nod to Bush’s bland budget director or a guy I had to Google. (You mean the one who’s Proctor and Gamble’s CEO, right? Eh.)
On a side note, that little boy is my new hero. He knows he’s lost, he knows that little chick is gonna get her hooks in him eventually, but he’s gonna fight like a mother fucker all the way down.
I’m a single, child-free, “poor” woman, and I’m a Republican. But I am pretty white, so maybe that’s why?
I recognize that other intelligent people can hold opinions that vary wildly from mine. This mix is what makes our country strong.
Hell, I’m a fairly well-off, married-to-a-woman, white man with 2 children and even I don’t see the appeal.
I get the *ideal* of the Republican Party. Small government at home, kicking ass abroad, mom and apple pie sounds terrific. In theory, the Republican Party sounds amazing. In theory.
This kind of thread is one of the reasons I love WG. I love that we can have a normal freaking conversation about politics without getting ridiculous about it and reducing things to name-calling.
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Ron Paul strikes me as borderline mad genius. On the one hand, his domestic policies (esp vis a vis finance) show a remarkable insight. On the other hand he’s so anti-interventionist he makes Neville Chamberlain look like Churchill.
Newt is another who is very smart, very well versed in History, but even excusing his family actions (he’s running for President, not the right to marry your sister), he strikes me as the Michael Caine of the candidates- for the right amount of money, he’ll show up anywhere.
Huntsman suffers from obama-taint. And hey, I get that Ambassador posts are basically political “thank you’s” in this day and age. Do something dude to make people notice you. (Daughters are a nice start)
Santorum is another who isn’t cuckoo – but doesn’t energize people either.
In the end, what I think the pollsters are missing, is despite divisions on the right, even a Tea Party conservative is going to vote for Romney over obama.
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Meh. 2 out of 3 isn’t bad.
Not to start ANYTHING political, but to start something political, Huntsman is probably my favorite GOP candidate. Since I’m left-leaning, that’s probably why he won’t be nominated.
I hear this from A LOT of liberals and I don’t really understand it. I get that Huntsman comes off as personable and charming and moderate in temperament, and that is great, but his record is not liberal, or even all that moderate unless all you care about is global warming.
Huntsman is pro-flat(ish) tax, pro guns, super pro-life. All in all fairly conservative. If you are left leaning you would probably be happier, policy wise, under Romney.
The problem is I don’t trust Romney at ALL. If anything his record indicates that he is a survivor first and foremost.
I don’t agree with a lot of Hunstman, but he has been warmer to progressive initiatives than some of the other GOP candidates.
Also – especially this year – the designation of “my favorite GOP candidate” is akin to the tallest midget.
I want to make babies with that Brunette….then immediately name our first child Mike. Mike Huntsman…say it with me now
Grrrrr. POLITICS! OBAMA! SOCIALIST! AMURICA! FOOTBALL!!
Can you really be a “dark horse GOP presidential candidate” when you’re polling at 1% because you’re too goddamned sane for a Republican?
Does Chubs blurt out “Double Ds” toward the end of the interview as if to spin her weight gain for a positive?
It is the only upside.
And here I thought Mormons couldn’t eat chocolate.
They’re like Wilson Philips, or another generic trio of 2 hot chicks and a, uh, heavier girl.
Oh! The Kardashians!
Is it a rule that there has to be one fat girl for every two hot chicks?
The hottest one is married. I assume it’s to Bradley Cooper’s character from Wedding Crashers.
They’re like the Wilson Philips of presidential candidates daughters.
They’re Mormon right? Not interested then.
Dude they’re Mormon, which means you can nab all three. At once.
My BYU buddy’s favorite T-shirt
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I vote for the brunette.
What a coincidence, I’m surging too.
I was going to go with “Ironic that he’s surging in the polls while my pole is surging. Pow pow.”
A note to the ladies: fishnet stockings should not be worn unless someone’s getting lucky that evening.
I have to disagree. Fishnet stockings are great for any occasion.
Yes, we know you wear yours often.
Drunk yes, yes, yes.
Which one of them tried to frame the Ron Paul campaign for this video?
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Ron Paul doesn’t need help to look like the King of the Crazy People, Ronnie does that all on his own.
Ok, but that’s not the point. The Huntsman campaign, IE one of his daughters, tried to paint the Paul campaign as mocking his adopted daughter. I thought Mormons weren’t supposed to lie
I just can’t take anyone seriously whose campaign ad includes the line “the world is literally collapsing”
Look, I love Huntsman, in a fair world my party would be nominating him (and those daughters ain’t bad either. But as a Republican, I have already reluctantly resigned myself to the idea of Mitt Romney, Presidential nominee.
Notice I didn’t say President Romney. Mitt will win the nomination easily and he will flop through the general election like a fish.
Generally I hated my choices for Republican nominee this year: a crazy lady we were about to get rid of until she hitched her ride to the Tea Party, a philandering pizza king, a man so bland his shit turned gray, and a crazy old man who has a cult like status among other crazy people. God I miss Reagan. Can we just clone the dude? Well, actually we can’t do that because we made that sort of thing illegal…maybe a robot? I would totally elect a Cyborg Ronald Reagan to the presidency.
Now you know what it was like to be a liberal during the John Kerry nomination.
Remove the sharp objects from your house now. Trust me.
God, John Kerry. “Anyone but Bush!! OH GOD ANYONE BUT HIM.”
Jesus, that bad?
God, why Romney? Why did we pick the most boring mother fucker in the party? If we aren’t going to win, let’s have fun with it. Lets just nominate Ron Jeremy and let him have sex on stage during the debates. Let’s nominate Gary Busey and give him a microphone for thirty minutes. ANYTHING but that vanilla flavored Mormon fuck.
“Ok guys, we’re up against a super cool, super smooth, amazing speaking walking-fundraiser but he’s vulnerable! We need to nominate someone to really shake up the party! Get that youth vote like Obama did! Who ya got??”
“Uh…..we can nominate faceless old white career millionaire/politician version 10.4.”
Jesus, that bad?
Worse. Mitt Romney is, in reality, what people thought John Kerry was.
Both of them are elitist stick-up-their-ass guys from Massachusetts who are incapable of human feeling or communicating like an ordinary person.
They’re both flip-floppers, but to wildly varying degrees. Kerry was killed because he said “I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it,” which, in context, made sense. There were two versions of the war funding bill up for a vote in the Senate — he voted for the one that raised taxes on the rich to finance the war, then he voted against the one that simply threw the cost of the war on the deficit. His phrasing was garbled as hell, but the underlying issue wasn’t a flip-flop.
Romney, however, has flip-flopped on virtually every issue under the sun. The website Multiple Choice Mitt has a decent rundown, and it’s a pretty amazing list.
Add to that the fact that, as Huckabee said, Romney reminds people of the guy who fired them, and you’re looking at an epic trainwreck.
The main thing Kerry and Romney have in common is they both appear to the public as out of touch elitists that will say whatever they can to be President.
The United States of America, where Presidents are elected based on their wallet, looks and whether or not they’re worse then the other guy running. America, fuck yeah!
This gentlemen is a little window into life as an under 30 Republican, where the party’s ideals make a whole lot of sense to you, you defend them vigorously against the horde of assholes who think you’re a stormtrooper in the Waffen SS, you suffer through “I’m sorry, I can’t date you because you’re a Republican.” from every loose college girl on campus, and then smile uncomfortably when it feels like every screenwriter gets it into their head that you’re the bad guy from an 80s comedy (Chad/Brian/Charles/William from across the lake/the rival golf course/the much better fraternity/the rival dojo).
And what is your reward for this loyalty, this perseverance inspite of tall odds? A party that doesn’t get you, doesn’t really like you, and kind of pisses on you when it comes time for a nominee.
Fuck you very much Romney.
And what is your reward for this loyalty, this perseverance inspite of tall odds? A party that doesn’t get you, doesn’t really like you, and kind of pisses on you when it comes time for a nominee.
Yeesh. You might want to talk to this guy.
Or a member of the Log Cabin Republicans. Or any Hispanics still left in the party.
Oh I know their pain. I hadn’t seen that video yet, that is just heart breaking. I also recommend the documentary on the Log Cabin guys and their struggle with the Bush Nomination because it was a stunning example of perfectly reasonable group of Republicans who stick to their beliefs…but they have to swallow a lot of shit from the very same people they support.
I think sane Republicans like thecursor should join angry and disillusioned Democrats like myself, compromise and agree on our issues, and start a third party for the 60% of America that isn’t extreme in any way.
At this point if there was a third party that believed in a reasonable small government, the right to keep at reasonable portion of what you earn, and doesn’t call me a psycho for owning a gun, I’d probably join.
Notice I said reasonable, not Libertarian crazy small government where you have a closet marked “Federal Government” and the rest of the country is an anarchist oligarchy.
LTF – our former mayor was the kind of guy that could do that, but extreme shot a coyote, kicked his ass, and… what was that third thing?
TV related political rant: yesterday when I went in the locker room at the Y three old guys are drinking coffee watching Fox cover “the EPA infringing on the rights of homeowners! 5th amendment! Derp! Derp!” segment and as I walked out it was “look at this picture of a high school girl that was too racy for her high school yearbook. First Amendment! Derp! Derp!” this is where the rest of the republican party comes to learn.
thecursor and LastTexans, if you start that party let me know and I’m in.
Here’s my crackpot theory on the election: Romney is the best choice for America. Why? Because everyone on the right hates Obama. Everyone on the left hates the Tea Party. But nobody on either side gives a crap about Romney. We’re all fairly indifferent. He provokes no passion on either side. We could all finally unite in apathetic solidarity. Political bickering would cease because no one would give a shit.
Romney’s campaign slogan: “This time he’s the lesser of two evils.”
Or even better: “If you were running for President, he’d vote for you.”
You’re probably not that far off. Since the Republican party isn’t this monolith voting block everybody likes to believe, you end up with every different piece of the party wanting somebody different because everybody has a different idea of what constitutes Conservative thought.
The Libertarians want Paul, the Religious Right wants Santorum or Perry, the Tea Party wanted Cain or Bachmann, and the Moderates like me want Huntsman. The only guy everyone can can agree isn’t a total piece of shit or a psycho is Mitt Romney. He’s like those curtains your wife made you buy, they don’t suck but they ain’t great.
There is always the possibility of a brokered convention leading to a candidate being “drafted”. Somebody like Mitch Daniels or Bob McDonald. If Romney gets the nomination I think Obama is going to win fairly easily since I could see Johnson pulling 5-15% away.
I don’t think we’re going to see a brokered convention.
If Democrats fell in line behind our shit sandwich, the much more party-centric Republicans are going to fall in line behind theirs. Romney will take NH tonight, and he’s got the SC state leadership in his pocket too. This’ll be effectively wrapped up by FL, though Gingrich and Paul will still nip at his heels for a little longer.
But if it *does* go to a brokered convention, I have a hard time believing they give the nod to Bush’s bland budget director or a guy I had to Google. (You mean the one who’s Proctor and Gamble’s CEO, right? Eh.)
I like to imagine the little girl as Romney telling the little boy GOP that he’s going to be their nominee. [bit.ly]
Yeah that’s…pretty accurate.
On a side note, that little boy is my new hero. He knows he’s lost, he knows that little chick is gonna get her hooks in him eventually, but he’s gonna fight like a mother fucker all the way down.
That video is perfect. Probably going to cost that kid about $400 an hour to see a shrink in his 30s, but exactly how I feel about Romney.
Don’t blame me. I voted for Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.
Can someone explain to me why anyone would vote Republican if they’re not a rich, married (to a woman), white man with 2 children?
I’m a single, child-free, “poor” woman, and I’m a Republican. But I am pretty white, so maybe that’s why?
I recognize that other intelligent people can hold opinions that vary wildly from mine. This mix is what makes our country strong.
Hell, I’m a fairly well-off, married-to-a-woman, white man with 2 children and even I don’t see the appeal.
I get the *ideal* of the Republican Party. Small government at home, kicking ass abroad, mom and apple pie sounds terrific. In theory, the Republican Party sounds amazing. In theory.
Marry- Brunette (Hot.)
Boff- Chubby blonde (Big girls always appreciate male company.)
Do away with- Blonde (Hot blonde? High Maintenance.)
This kind of thread is one of the reasons I love WG. I love that we can have a normal freaking conversation about politics without getting ridiculous about it and reducing things to name-calling.
Fascist.
I don’t want to contribute to a PolFlaWa; but here it is anyway: my fingers smell like two Huntsman daughters.
There, I said it.
P.S. Choice in a US Presidential election is an illusion.
I just want to see Meghan McCain’s boobies.
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Does she make her money barging into comment threads and spamming shit sites that no one will ever visit? If so, she should punch herself in the face.
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Why such hate towards a job creator?
Ron Paul strikes me as borderline mad genius. On the one hand, his domestic policies (esp vis a vis finance) show a remarkable insight. On the other hand he’s so anti-interventionist he makes Neville Chamberlain look like Churchill.
Newt is another who is very smart, very well versed in History, but even excusing his family actions (he’s running for President, not the right to marry your sister), he strikes me as the Michael Caine of the candidates- for the right amount of money, he’ll show up anywhere.
Huntsman suffers from obama-taint. And hey, I get that Ambassador posts are basically political “thank you’s” in this day and age. Do something dude to make people notice you. (Daughters are a nice start)
Santorum is another who isn’t cuckoo – but doesn’t energize people either.
In the end, what I think the pollsters are missing, is despite divisions on the right, even a Tea Party conservative is going to vote for Romney over obama.
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Guy’cha! Am I too late to call dibs on the fatty???
PetaQ! I will fight you to the death for the fatty!
I’m fucking disappointed, three ripe Mormon sisters and just one veiled polygamy reference out of all these comments!